1 Vereinsthaler - John

Features

Issuer	Kingdom of Saxony (Albertinian Line) (German States)
King	John I (1854-1873)
Type	Standard circulation coins
Years	1857-1859
Value	1 Thaler
Currency	Thaler (1839-1873)
Composition	Silver (.900)
Weight	18.52 g
Diameter	33 mm
Shape	Round
Technique	Milled
Orientation	Medal alignment ↑↑
Demonetized	Yes
Number	N# 47531
References	AKS# 132 Paul Arnold, Harald Küthmann, Dirk Steinhilber; 2022. Großer deutscher Münzkatalog: von 1800 bis heute = Great German Coin Catalog (37^th Edition). Battenberg Gietl Verlag, Regenstauf, Bavaria, Germany. , Jaeg 10 SW# 107, 111 Kurt Jaeger; 1969. Die Münzprägungen der deutschen Staaten vor Einführung der Reichswährung / Band 10. Königreich Sachsen, 1806-1873, und Herzogtum Warschau, 1810-1815 = The Coinage of the German States Before the Introduction of the Imperial Currency (1^st Edition). Munzen & Medaillen, Basel, Switzerland. , KM# 1192 Standard Catalog of World Coins (86 volumes). , Kahnt/Schön# 154 Helmut Kahnt, Günter Schön; 2016. Weltmünzkatalog / 19. Jahrhundert: 1801-1900 = World Coin Catalog (17^th Edition). Battenberg Gietl Verlag, Regenstauf, Bavaria, Germany. , KahntDS# 463 Helmut Kahnt. Deutsche Silbermünzen 1800-1872. Battenberg Gietl Verlag, Regenstauf, Bavaria, Germany (2 volumes). , Thun# 339 Norbert Thun; 1979. Deutsche Taler, Doppelgulden, Doppeltaler von 1800-1871 = German Thalers, Double Guldens, Double Thalers from 1800-1871. Verlag Frankfurter Numismatik, Frankfurt am Main, Hesse, Germany. , Dav GT III# 890 John Stewart Davenport; 1949. German Talers since 1800. Spink & Son, Galesburg, Illinois, United States.

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Obverse

Bust of king Johann facing left with inscription and mint mark around

Script: Latin

Lettering:
IOHANN V.G.G. KOENIG VON SACHSEN
F

Reverse

Crowned Saxonian coat of arms with inscription and value around, year below

Script: Latin

Lettering:
EIN VEREINSTHALER XXX EIN PFUND FEIN
18 57

Edge

Smooth edge with inscription

Script: Latin

Lettering: GOTT SEGNE SACHSEN

Mint

Dresden, Germany

Mark

F	Gustav Theodor Fischer, Mint Master, Dresden (1845-1860)

Comments

The number of ermine tails around doat of arms varies.
1857: 38 tails
1858/59: 28 tails

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Date		Mintage	XF	AU	Frequency
Undetermined
1857	F	969 375			16%
1858	F	1 626 140		$ 200	39%
1859	F	2 490 337	$ 78	$ 140	61%

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Bullion value: USD 33.34 Search tips

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Actual silver weight: 0.536 oz

Current silver price: 62.22 USD/oz (see silver price

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Past sales

Pictures	Sale	Date	Version	Grade	Sold price
	Katz Auction 80 Lot 598	Apr 5, 2023	1858 F	AU	USD 197.59 (EUR 171.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 70 Lot 52	Nov 13, 2022	1858 F	AU	USD 195.28 (EUR 169.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions 2023 January 9 NYINC World & Ancient Coins Platinum Session and Signature® Auction - New York 3105 Lot 31186	Jan 9, 2023	1859 F	UNC (NGC MS66)	USD 1440.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 154 Lot 597	Apr 12, 2025	1859 F	AU	USD 143.28 (EUR 124.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 149 Lot 1384	Feb 8, 2025	1859 F	AU	USD 115.55 (EUR 100.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 146 Lot 354	Dec 14, 2024	1859 F	AU	USD 144.44 (EUR 125.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 138 Lot 1420	Sep 27, 2024	1859 F	XF	USD 94.75 (EUR 82.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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