@infini yeah, like @BoringPostcards says, this has always been received more or less how he presents it: "this is a thing in the world, and it doesn't threaten me - on the contrary, those dudes are being threatened left, right, and center."
I still can't quite get past the casual misogyny, though.
@BoringPostcards in a way, this one is internally consistent, though. If you really believe that women are inferior to men, then it's not a big surprise when you empathize with other men being treated unfairly. The extent to which homosexuality challenges that is the extent to which you use it to label men as effeminate, and if you feel entitled to make decisions without parroting a cultural expectation and have met some of the many distinctly noneffeminate gay men, I can easily see that empathy coexisting with maintaining contempt for women - maybe even with a little envy of those those "never" have to deal with "cunts."
There are some combinations of progressive/regressive that surprise me, too, for sure, but I've encountered so many men who are actually surprised when someone calls them out on misogynist bullshit, it's so normalized, that no willingness to, in essence, put bros before "hos" surprises me anymore.
Your first paragraph is right on the money. I've never seen it spelled out so plainly, but you're exactly right.
RE: progressive/regressive, I remember when I first found out that there were racist gay people, and sadly realized the struggle was even bigger than I'd understood it to be.
Back then, the casual misogyny was the good stuff, the outright pattern, poor wages, poor advancement, "academia in general, still," domestic murders, overwork, just the casual stuff, almost seemed sweet, as if at least he recognised women exist, and had enough personal power to get bad names. He was a man's man, kind of actor.
This whole area of intersectionality and nuanced analysis of gender is a weak area for me and I learn with every comment. Growing up as a third culture kid dominated at home by a mother embedded in a patriarchal, hierarchical, repressive social context, and exposed to the world in international british and american schools in the tropics of the 70s & early 80s, meant my only recourse to self actualization was simply powering through all the barriers to study what I wanted and work outside the home without having invested time in understanding what was going, or even having resources and information regarding the same. Metafilter has been my source of knowledge since then. https://ask.metafilter.com/222813...
I still can't quite get past the casual misogyny, though.
There are some combinations of progressive/regressive that surprise me, too, for sure, but I've encountered so many men who are actually surprised when someone calls them out on misogynist bullshit, it's so normalized, that no willingness to, in essence, put bros before "hos" surprises me anymore.
RE: progressive/regressive, I remember when I first found out that there were racist gay people, and sadly realized the struggle was even bigger than I'd understood it to be.