User talk:Traumnovelle

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I have received credible evidence from an anonymous source that this user is, in fact, a member of the feline species; heed due regard when enganging with her, as she has been known to bite, scratch, and knead her fellow Wikipedians. You should also note that she has tested positively for toxoplasmosis, and is considered pawed and dangerous. Thank you for your time, and stay vigilant of these pesky felids. Eternal September (talk) 20:36, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

How on Earth would we know that this user likes cats? They really should put a few userboxes or something like that. _{In solidarity}User:Wikipedian12512(alt) (Talking is fine | contribs) 17:14, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:List of towns in New Zealand

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Stop reverting non-free images

Stop reverting non-free images, including those specifically uploaded by ArleneHerman. Some of these have already been legitimate in their 316x316 size (making them viewable in preview tabs and higher quality in general while maintaining a proper size) by DatBot. Just because it's 200x200 or something like that doesn't mean it's better. The original uploads are usually degraded and uploaded in some time like 2006. - RTSthestardust (talk) 21:48, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

The images have been altered in an AI-powered editing software, per WP:AIGI these shouldn't be used as they can introduce inaccuracies. Image files do not 'degrade' either. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:39, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

oooooooooh, that makes sense. - RTSthestardust (talk) 02:59, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

is quite an obvious example, you can put it through a noise viewer and see that it has the unnatural noise that AI generates. Compared to or the original

Perhaps I should have used an edit summary in the reversions, there were quite a lot so I figured I'd be fine reverting and leaving a note on the talk page of the uploader. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:01, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Hi both. These higher quality album covers I added, none were touched using AI from my end. They were from the official streaming sources and studios. My apologies here. I will remember this going forward. ArleneHerman (talk) 20:12, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps you didn't intentionally use AI but Pixelmator Pro boasts of being 'AI-powered' and the images have evidently been through some sort of AI processing.

Just look at the version you uploaded compared to the original and a higher res version I found online.

This has been true for all the other ones I checked Traumnovelle (talk) 20:22, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

You're a legend for checking this. I had no idea. I was only using the resize down function with Pixelmator Pro. So again, my apologies. Thank you honestly for checking. I will only use preview to resize going forward. I know and understand it uses AI to upscale but didn't know this on down scaling. (I did no upscaling). Thank you! ArleneHerman (talk) 22:52, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Its okay, I guess the application doesn't make it obvious that its AI. I recommend using GIMP, which doesn't (to my knowledge) have any AI features. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:41, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. No it doesn't. I appreciate your help here. Apologies for the trouble. Yes I will use GIMP. Much appreciated. ArleneHerman (talk) 04:00, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

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Closing the discussion

Kia ora Traumnovelle - can you please explain how my comment in that section was off topic? I was encouraging the IP editor to gather reliable sources that can be used to improve the article, rather than continue with unproductive arguing. I don't see how that's counterproductive or off-topic. Turnagra (talk) 20:51, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

I was referring to thread itself, not your comment specifically. I believe the thread would likely just continue to be unproductive arguments about things unrelated to the article hence why I hatted it. You are free to reverse my edit although I believe that if the thread is unhatted it will resolve back to arguments that are unrelated to the article. You can repost your comment to the IP's talk page. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:08, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Pīpipi

Thanks for the ping. Did you mean to give 'Creeper' a capital 'C' in your proposal? It doesn't comply with Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Bird names and article titles, so won't pass, and I presume it's not what you intended. Nurg (talk) 01:53, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

I'll edit that, thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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Archive.is

You are wasting your breath suggesting that there might be some merit to not removing an archive.is link. I and a couple of other editors have tried this on multiple occasions, but there are too many editors who extremely vocally do not believe that the long-term verifiability of content is something of any importance relative to killing archive.today with fire. Thryduulf (talk) 09:28, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

I fear that the system is so prone to abuse too. Any smart LTA just needs to make a vandal edit where an archive.is link is removed and it will be impossible to automatically revert for non-admins. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:45, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Add it to the list of problems that were hadwaved away. The decisions around removing that site were the result of something closer to a moral panic than to a rational discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Variable spelling within articles

Hi Traumnovelle, I can see that the wikipedia page is called Otakou. But I had thought that the beauty of piping an extra name e.g. [ [name|text] ] is that one can use spelling variants without disrupting a wikilink. For example, when mentioning plants or animals - the wiki page usually has the scientific name as its link, so I'll usually put the common name in the piped link (e.g., Rimu).

Yes I could start the RfC process for Otakou as well (and then have to find and fix all mentions of it on wikipedia). But the macron debate, which I thought we had finalised, is exhausting and I don't really want to go through all that right now. So I thought it was reasonable to simply correct the spelling on the Otago Peninsula page without having to dive down that rabbit hole!

TreeReader (talk) 13:16, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

The example you gave is a valid example of a piped link as its from a common name to a scientific name. If 'Otakou' is the wrong spelling the article title should be changed to adjust that, you shouldn't go around changing the spelling to the 'correct' spelling without consensus for it. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Piping it is the worst way to go about it too as it won't be detected and thus won't be changed if the article title is changed at a requested move as well.

The guidance at WP:NCNZ states: 'Where the commonly used name is of Māori origin, use the spelling as defined in the New Zealand Gazetteer if the entry is labelled "official". Do not take guidance from the New Zealand Gazetteer if the entry is labelled as "not official"; in this case Wikipedia's normal naming policy applies.', and the entry for Otakou is unofficial and lacks a macron. I will reference Omarama, which had a proposal to include a macron but two spellings (one with two macrons, one with just one over the O) were used amongst the sources with the spelling ultimately coming down to what the etymology is (the etymology is debated and nothing authoritative supports one over the other). Choosing one spelling would ultimately be accepting one etymology as correct over the other.

I don't know what the case is for Otakou and I don't know how I would vote at a requested move, but there is a reason we have these processes in place and they should be followed instead of changing the spelling in an article but keeping the title the same. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Who is following who?

When you reverted [my recent change] to Frances Ross, your Edit summary included "please stop following me around". If you look at the full history of this page, you may notice that it is a page to which I made signficant contributions in 2021 and 2023. Similarly, many of the edits you have been making to the Wānaka page are in paragraphs that I have contributed to over the years.

Can we just note that we appear to have many interests in common? Somej (talk) 02:49, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

You've never edited Herbert nor the Okahukura Peninsula before, yet after reverting me at Wanaka you've edited three articles I've recently edited, with only one article being one you've edited in the past. Yes there is overlap in some articles, and I can concede perhaps Frances Ross was you following your watchlist but the others? Traumnovelle (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

you will see that I created the page Angus Ross (historian), so I hope it is not surprising that I follow that one closely to see if edits to it are constructive and in good faith. It piqued my curiosity that another editor was as equally interested in Wānaka and the Ross family of Herbert as I am.

You may be reassured however that I have no interest in cats, cocaine, or Kaipara. Somej (talk) 03:21, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

My edits to the Ross family were primarily with regards to removing the unsourced claim of Herbert and adding the wikilink to the article Otepopo, I did try and improve the initial early life for Angus Ross but couldn't access either of the obits. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:27, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Taxonomy

From Binomial_nomenclature:

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Relevant to your revision comment [] on Ōkahukura_Peninsula. Your rewording does however get around the original confusion.Somej (talk) 04:29, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

I meant species as in plural in my edit summary, I just forgot/didn't clarify that. I think the source chose a really odd example given I don't see any proposals relating to that, and that the predator free fence would assist the existing population rather than bringing in new ones (which would be a later project). I guess the authors went with the most notable New Zealand brid. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:55, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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Translation of publisher name for citation in article Rottweiler

Hi Traumnovelle, I saw your repeated revert of my edit on Rottweiler, where you replaced the original publisher's name. To my understanding, WP:CITEHOW applies here, which reads "the citation information should be cited as it appears in the original source". None of the stated exceptions apply in this case. Was this maybe a mistake of yours, or did I do a false reading of WP:CITEHOW? If my understanding of the guidelines was incorrect, please guide me to the relevant part therein. By the way, your translation of LMU is also not correct, but that only as a side remark. Proof finder (talk) 22:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Where are you getting the publisher name from? Traumnovelle (talk) 23:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

See for example the book details on . Proof finder (talk) 00:15, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

The English translation was published separately. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:17, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh, you seem to be right. I found information on it from (end of the page). However, then the publisher name needs to be changed to something even more different, i.e., the Colonial Rottweiler Club and the Medallion Club, would you agree? Proof finder (talk) 03:52, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, the English publisher should be cited. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:45, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructive discussion! I changed it accordingly. Proof finder (talk) 09:46, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

June 2026

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to Trinity Congregational Church, Christchurch when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Just because you specify |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= must be defined in the template. You can look at the documentation for the template you are using but it is also helpful to use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and ensure that the values you have added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:22, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

That is because infobox_restaurant and infobox_church use different parameters for the image caption. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:13, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Yup. Pain in the arse isn't it? Just double check with preview moving forward. Otherwise, keep up the good work! Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 04:57, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Re: Kawau Island

Apparently it's a Historic Reseve, not a Scenic one. I've removed it from the list of Scenic reserves of New Zealand. Grutness...wha? 12:29, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

The historic reserve covers Mansion Bay and one of the old copper mines. Most of the island is privately owned. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

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Talk page discussion you may be interested in

Hi Traumnovelle -- just letting you know I've started a discussion on the talk page of Waterview Connection about a potential merge following the recent AfD -- you may wish to comment on it. :-) MrSeabody (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2026 (UTC)

Undoing my sd edit

are you freaking power tripping or something? that short description was entirely correct and factually right. I'm never ever editing Wikipedia again my knowledge stays in my brain.

and what's with the acronyms can't you just use plain English

so sorry Wikipedia but you just lost a very intelligent person to your community because I'm sick and tired of being cracked upon like this. I'm not misleading, I think they might be jealousy talking. ~2026-39674-86 (talk) 22:22, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

For anyone wondering this is the edit in question Traumnovelle (talk) 03:24, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

Briar Gardner article

Hi there, I just saw you have changed the Briar Gardner article back to its original version. I can understand your comment, but am wondering why the Te Toi Uku (a secondary source) article, and the commons images have been deleted? I have also used Papers Past sources in a lot of my published Wiki articles and have not had an issue, so am wondering if some can still be included but just less to be in balance with the secondary sources? Thanks --Avawatson03 (talk) 06:49, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Many of the sources didn't support the claims given i.e. 'Likewise she continued her talks with various societies' but the source only mentions one society and Gardner. Or 'In 1927 she began frequently exhibiting pottery decorated with 'Barbola raised work' in the League of Penwomen exhibitions' but the source only mentions one exhibition.

A full RV was a bit harsh, I'll restore some of the bits you mentioned that I shouldn't have reverted and we can continue discussion from there. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:17, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring some of the article. I see what you mean about the generalisation and assumptions incorporated, I should have been much more specific when referencing the sources. A lot of the primary sources I consulted did have details about her practice that aren't found in secondary sources, so I do want to add some back in but will remain cautious to not let that overpower secondary information. Avawatson03 (talk) 08:28, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Generally primary sources are unsuitable because relying on them puts undue detail on material that hasn't been picked up/focused on by secondary sources. There are 730 hits for her name on paperspast for example, and although many will be duplicates there are probably dozens if not hundreds of exhibits she has been involved with that have been covered by contemporary reports.

Here are some secondary sources that I haven't looked at , The Book of New Zealand Women (p. 226), 'My Personal Work', Auckland - Waikato Historical

Journal, 44, April, 1984, p.11', Traumnovelle (talk) 08:38, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks on Malta

It didn’t tell me it accepted my revision, and when I tried to publish again it just removed it. _{In solidarity} Wikipedian12512 (Talking is fine | contribs) 21:29, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

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New Zealand location redirects

Hi! I've closed or will close a number of your recent RfD noms. In most cases I've left the backlinks since these seem like reasonable redlinks, but wanted to flag that I wasn't unlinking in case you thought it was better to clean it up, I don't have a strong opinion here. Rusalkii (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

It would depend on the context of the redlink, but I'm happy to clean these up myself. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:57, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

East Coast Bays - or "The"

Hey there, thanks for your diligence in reverting my edit at East Coast Bays. Some of the words I added were incorrect, when reading over it again. However, in a few locations, it does seem to refer to the geographical area rather than the borough - e.g. the sentence "East Coast Bays lines the north-east coast of the city along the shore of the Hauraki Gulf and Rangitoto Channel feels very incorrect grammatically, even if it's true in reference to the surburb. Another line that sticks out currently reads, "Many of the headlands of East Coast Bays were sites for defensive pā," as this is very clearly in reference to the geography of the bays, rather than it as a suburb, if that makes sense. With your permission, I'd like to add in "The" to a couple of instances like the ones above, given that's how the borough is referred to by Aucklanders, to improve the flow of the article.

Let me know what your thoughts are :) End (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

The area descends from the former borough. I disagree with the idea that because it covers geography means it literally refers to the bays, we have lots of articles on localities that include geography. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:56, 24 July 2026 (UTC)